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emilly ([personal profile] emilly) wrote2009-02-26 10:07 pm

4 and 1/2 questions (the last one is rhetorical)

help me out:

why are school websites so often so shit?

where in Melbourne can you buy postage stamps after hours?

what makes an effective teacher? serious question, i have to write an essay.

should I switch from English to SOSE? Don't actually have to decide that till next year.

isn't my handwriting lovely and legible? especially for a McLeay.

[identity profile] drjon.livejournal.com 2009-02-26 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
> why are school websites so often so shit?

Because non-professionals build them

> where in Melbourne can you buy postage stamps after hours?

Some Slevens stock stamps. I seem to recall the Sleven at the top of Bourke St

> what makes an effective teacher? serious question, i have to write an essay.

What does "an effective teacher" mean? The answer's in the question.

> should I switch from English to SOSE? Don't actually have to decide that till next year.

Yes.

> isn't my handwriting lovely and legible? especially for a McLeay.

Dunno. You never write! /sob

[identity profile] celuran.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
> What does "an effective teacher" mean? The answer's in the question.

Unfortunately I doubt turning the question back will get me an HD. The requirements suggested I ask various ppls and consider why different answers. (I'm beginning to think that if I'm so uninterested in the readings then perhaps this isn't the subject for me, but I want to stick it out until I get to the TL subjects and then see.)

The irritating thing about school websites is it's not like there is some kind of difficulty in finding a web designer. Your average school library will have a bunch of books if you want to do it yourself! You'd think they'd never heard the saying "if it's worth doing, it's worth doing well"! And i think it's also that someone related to a student might build them and then no one maintains them once that student has moved on. It's sometimes even difficult to use school websites to find contact details and goddamn you'd think that was a default!

[identity profile] drjon.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Effective teacher == one who teaches effectively.

What does it mean to teach effectively?

It means to successfully instruct a student in both the overt and covert lessons which one is being employed to instill. Sometimes, the covert lessons are the more important, for example: learning how to learn.

What makes an effective teacher? What does the question mean?

My best, most notably effective pedagogs--official or unofficial, professional or personal--have been those that I felt a connection with (that's not necessarily a "good" connection, btw--I've learned from negative connections as well). How about you?

Does being able to successfully teach require being able to connect?

If you want an HD, you have to find the answer which works best for you.

[identity profile] pink-kan.livejournal.com 2009-02-26 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
what makes an effective teacher?

My 2c worth... I think something that makes an effective teacher is one that can teach all people. They have to be able to recognise that not all teaching styles suit all students and know how to teach each method to educate all students.

Eg - method 1 grabs half the class, they've got it so move on to method 2 to grab half the rest of the class, the've got it now, so use method 3 etc to teach the remainder of the class.

Some people need visual aids, some need examples, some just need facts and can work it out for themselves, some wont understand until they've tried it themselves.

An effective teach is one who teaches the students so an effective teacher needs to be able to reach all students.

Hope that helps.

[identity profile] celuran.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it is important to recognise that everyone is different, but I'm not sure that it's as simple to do as to say.

my issue with your example is that what are the kids who understood method 1 doing while you are teaching method 3 to the rest of the class?

Acting up, I imagine, and disrupting the class.

[identity profile] pink-kan.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Well hopefully if they're are dilligent students, they are starting to work on the associated activities now that they know how to do it.... basic example I know.

If they're interested students they're listening to method 3 so they can understand all the different ways of explaining it and can pass on the knowledge to someone else later... so then they can become a good teacher ;)

[identity profile] tikiwanderer.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
You've been effective as a teacher if the people you taught can do or understand or think through whatever it is without having to refer back to you. And I don't necessarily mean "understand something forevermore", but to be able to go back and relearn it on their own at need. This is what I have to do with a lot of my physics stuff - it doesn't stay in my head, but I can pick up my notes or text book and be right back with it quite quickly, because I learnt how to understand it for myself.

I'm inclined to think that the most effective teachers are those who make the process of getting to this point almost intuitively easy and natural-feeling.

[identity profile] celuran.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! That's almost what I would say myself - teach some one how to learn, rather than teach someone that x=5.

It is interesting asking practicing teachers though. What came up at lunch time yesterday wasn't learning at all, but a love for your subject, and scrupulous fairness.

[identity profile] rogue-scholar.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
* They're designed by the principal's daughter
* I know a guy who can hook you up, he lives under a bridge
* Knowing how to engage kids without trying to be their buddy
* Yes
* What, Arial?

[identity profile] celuran.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
hey frase! I thought you had been eaten by facebook.

[identity profile] rogue-scholar.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 10:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm getting over the addiction. One day at a time, you know... it's hard, but I'm on this recovery medication. It's this little patch you put on your arm called Twitter.

[identity profile] celuran.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
I love that the age has just noticed twitter. i've been ignoring my account there for years!
twitter just quantifies that my mum is internet famous, and i am much too lazy to also become internet famous.

[identity profile] rogue-scholar.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's weird how it suddenly catches on in a big way, isn't it? I joined about 24 hours before it was mentioned on Rove, so that was a close call, but I've seen it around for ages. Never bothered before because nobody I knew was using it.